Ryan Tubridy
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Media TribeShaunagh talks to Ryan Tubridy
This episode features one of Ireland's best known personalities, Ryan Tubridy. Ryan presents the Late Late Show on RTE, the world's longest-running live TV chat show and The Ryan Tubridy Show on RTE Radio One. We speak about Ryan’s career trajectory becoming a journalist at the tender age of 12, valuing our frontline workers and that time he went wandering in the White House and ended up in a car with Gerry Adams, the Irish Republican politician.
Episode credits
Hosted and produced by Shaunagh Connaire and edited by Ryan Ferguson.
Episode transcript
Shaunagh Connaire
Welcome to Media Tribe. I'm Shaunagh Connaire. And this is the podcast that tells the story behind the story. It's an opportunity for you and I to step into the shoes of the most extraordinary media folk who cover the issues that matter most.
Ryan Tubridy
And find myself in an atrium right behind the front door at the colonnaded White House. I shouldn't have been there. So I went through the front door and in front of me was the presidential motorcade waiting for the Taoiseach and the president to go up to Capitol Hill for the big speakers lunch. And as I was looking, I was going, "Wow, that's quite the spectacle." The window came down and out of the window, Jerry Adams looks at me and says, "Top of the morning to you, Mr. Tubridy."
Shaunagh Connaire
My guest today is Ryan Tubridy. Ryan is a very famous Irish broadcaster who hosts the long running late, late show an RTE television on a Friday night, as well as hosting the Ryan Tubridy Show on RTE One. Ryan, thank you so much for coming on the Media Tribe podcast.
Ryan Tubridy
Well, it's an absolute pleasure, because I feel it's like a reciprocal arrangement. You have had an extraordinary array of people and now me. So let's see what we can do to the standard. Lower it, hopefully.
Shaunagh Connaire
Well, I feel slightly bad, because, obviously, I accosted you on your own show on national radio and asked you to come on the podcast. So did you, in some way, feel slightly pressured?
Ryan Tubridy
No, no. I thought you did what any good journalists would do, which is take an opportunity. Isn't that what this is all about, where you see the moment and you seize it?
Shaunagh Connaire
You're very polite. But look, we're here now and the audience will be dying to understand your career journey and trajectory. Did you start at 12 years of age, Ryan? Is that a true story?
Ryan Tubridy
Yeah, it is. I was going to see films in and around Dublin in Ireland where I'm from. And at the age of 12, we ran out of films to go to see. And I said to my dad, I said, "What are we going to do about this?" He said, "We'll write to the papers." So the paper of record in this country, as you know, is the Irish Times.
Ryan Tubridy
So a precocious 12-year-old wrote to the Irish Times and said, "Dear Sir, I know its a bit disappointment, the lack of films for 12-year-olds around the place. There's Goonies and Rocky 5 or something." I said, "I've seen them all. What to do?" That was it. It was a paragraph. And that was published on the 20th of February, 1986. And the reason I know those dates so well is because I still have the letter, not the original one that I wrote in, but the one that was published in the paper, because it changed my life.
Ryan Tubridy
After that, somebody from the national broadcaster got in touch, from RTE, to say, "Would you like to come and review films for us on our kid's TV Saturday morning program?" And I went in. I reviewed The Adventures of Young Sherlock Holmes and The Journey of Natty Gann, two films that died at death instantly. And I started there. I got paid 25 punts, Irish pounds. And I thought, "This is a way to make a living. I mean, this is great." Because I loved movies and films [inaudible 00:03:21].
Ryan Tubridy
And then, I was listening to the radio and her kids reviewing books on a Sunday morning radio show on RTE radio, and I wrote in. I said, "Can I have a go with that?" And they said, "Sure." And they sent me a parcel of books. And I'm a big book guy and I always have been a bookworm. And I suddenly found myself on the radio at the ages of 13, 14, 15.
Ryan Tubridy
Then the voice broke. That makes it the wilderness years. You're not attractive or wanted by anyone at any level of society. And I went off and did my final exams and went to college. And the story progresses from there. But, yes, it began with the letter to the paper at the age of twelve.
Shaunagh Connaire
That is extraordinary. That doesn't happen to many people, Ryan. So fair play to you writing in that letter. So you studied at UCD. That's where I also went. But then, you went into RTE. And I would say in today's terms, you did have quite a linear journey. You know, you started at radio. I'm assuming you did the night shifts and graduated to the morning shifts, doing tougher stories, et cetera.
Ryan Tubridy
Well, that's funny. What had happened was I went to UCD. I studied history and Greek and Roman civilization under the arts umbrella, which I got mocked for, but actually it's one of the best things I ever did, because I love... I did Latin for my Leaving Cert, which was very unusual still even in 1991. But I love that classical world. I love whether it's Caesar's... I mean, if you don't study Julius Caesar or Tiberius or Augustus, you'll never understand Trump or Obama or Blair or Brown. They're Titanic struggles. There's politics. It's all been done before. And also, the architecture of it means that you're never bored.
Ryan Tubridy
Anyway, I was going into RTE, going, "What can I do here? I think broadcasting would be my thing [inaudible 00:05:08] opportunities." But eventually, I managed to score a job as a runner on what was called The Gerry Ryan Show. So that was a big, big show on [inaudible 00:05:17] 2fm. And I was making tea and coffee and doing the post and bringing Danish pastries down to this amazing presenter who I admired from a fire for years. And that's when it began really, because then I started to learn. I saw microphones and speakers and reporters and researchers and producers. And I thought, "I like this world." I kept going. I was doing [inaudible 00:05:38].
Ryan Tubridy
Yeah, and I found my way. I started doing little reports, packages for different programs and so on. And then, eventually, various producers spotted me and said, "This kid, get him on." And I worked as a reporter for different people like Pat Kenny and so on.
Ryan Tubridy
And then, I started getting my own shows quietly and replacing the big presenters for some [inaudible 00:05:59] shifts and so on. And it was just a real build from there. And then television came knocking. So it was a strange, persistent, polite ambition. You know, it wasn't an ugly hunger. It was an intense curiosity. And I thought, 'Yeah, I could really do this." I did have good self-belief, actually, which can often be confused and mixed with cockiness, but there's a huge difference.
Shaunagh Connaire
Absolutely. It's great to hear that you did the slog, making the tea and all of those tough jobs. I certainly did the same at the BBC and that's what needs to be done.
Ryan Tubridy
Totally fine, Shaunagh. [inaudible 00:06:39] that then enriches you and equips you as a person to understand people at all levels of society at what they do and where they're at, so that you can understand in terms of empathy people's lives and what they're going through on how much they're going through, and so on. It's materially very important, I think, for your life experience to do all those jobs.
Shaunagh Connaire
Definitely. And I actually remember, I was a good bit older than any other intern at the BBC, because I kind of had a career beforehand. But I did remember at the BBC, at BBC World, everybody liked to keep their teabag in the cup, and I just thought it was the weirdest thing ever. It was clear that they weren't drinking Barry's Tea, because you wouldn't need to do that in that situation. But it did teach me a lot and as you say.
Shaunagh Connaire
Now, Ryan, you mentioned Gerry Ryan. I do believe... And for our non-Irish audience listening, Gerry Ryan was a hugely renowned broadcaster in Ireland. Passed away 10 years now, I believe. But I believe also Ryan, he was instrumental in your career. Would you potentially or perhaps call him a mentor?
Ryan Tubridy
Oh, no question about it, and I miss him an awful lot. He was a larger than life broadcaster. He would have been kind of in the kind of Howard Stern gene pool without being quite as over the top and vulgar, if you like. But he was very bright, very smart, very well-read man, who understood the listeners. He had a great rapport with them.
Ryan Tubridy
You know, much like another man who I have so much time and love for. I didn't know him as much, but Terry Wogan, who I would have met a few times. He would have said, "Make it a club. Make your show a club that everyone's a member. A lovely democratic feel to it and also an intimacy, so people would go, "The day doesn't sound right if I haven't listened to my hour of your man or your woman or whatever it might be." And so, Jerry was that. He was instrumental. And then, he died way too early. He was snatched away from us all.
Ryan Tubridy
And I don't know a lot of the presenters that well, but I was very friendly with Jerry and we loved having drinks together and talking about the world. He was bold as brass, and I like people who are naughty and dark and bold and slightly rebellious and speak their mind. And, yeah, I miss that and the advice and everything else that went with that. But yeah, he was very, very important. There are a few people... Gay Byrne would be another, Terry Wogan would be another, who you just have to [inaudible 00:09:19] a cap at and say, "You were tremendous. You were important. And you are missed."
Shaunagh Connaire
Absolutely. And speaking of Gay Byrne, you now host the most important TV show in Ireland. And, again, for the non-Irish listeners, The Late Late Show is an institution and it's also, I believe, the second longest running TV show in the world. So how does it feel sitting in that chair every Friday night? And as you say, it is, the audience, it does feel like we're part of a club, because it gives us structure to the week and it's like a public service?
Ryan Tubridy
Yeah, it is one of those... I mean, first of all, as you say, it's an institution. It's running for over 50 years. And I'm trying to... How do you explain? I often explain it to British guests when they come on. They say, "This thing's very old and you're not old enough for it." And I say, "No. This is the chat show TARDIS. I'm just the latest doctor." And then, they go, "Oh, I see, Ryan." And that makes sense. It is running nearly as long as Dr. Who.
Ryan Tubridy
And it is just one of those things that you watch as a child and you think, "God, I wonder if someday could I ever be on TV." And when I get on the radio, this sounds like this kind of phony, self-deprecating thing, but when I got on the radio, it was the kind of late '90s, early '90s, and that was the time where looks were at a premium and I felt that's me written off. And I'm not fishing. I'm just simply saying that's just a matter of physical genetic fact. So when eventually the opportunity came up, I managed to get a Saturday chat show, which I did for five years called Tubridy Tonight.
Ryan Tubridy
And when The Late Late Show became, the hosting job became vacant, I thought, "It's too soon for me." I didn't think I was going to be a runner at all to be honest with you. They called a few people in for what I would call a non-interview. It was a conversation. And I suppose it was a pitch, really. And, of course, I would've told them why I thought I'd be good enough for it. And I got a call to say, "You just got the job."
Ryan Tubridy
And I'll never forget, I'll never forget the moment. I mean, it was Charlie Bucket getting the golden ticket. It was absolute joy. And I called my mother and father. I was so happy that they were... My dad's not alive now, but I was so happy that he was alive at the time. They were both alive so that I could share with them my joy and gratitude.
Ryan Tubridy
And ever since then, I'm doing it 11 years, 12 years now. It has been brilliant. I have been awful. I have been good. I have had great seasons. I've had bumpy roads. But I'm glad to say, at the moment, we're on a very good road. And I'm very, very happy, very much in love with my job.
Shaunagh Connaire
That's brilliant here. And I believe the numbers are dramatically up during this weird time that we're living in. Did you have 50% listenership, or viewership, rather, quite recently, Ryan?
Ryan Tubridy
Well, the viewership figures are quite bonkers for people listening in from around the world. The Late Late Show, we have to explain, is a serious institution in Ireland. Ireland is a small island. I'm trying to defend the largest percentage share of the... It's right at the last season, that we were regularly pulling in between 48 and maybe 55, 60% share on a weekly basis. So we've had a very good run.
Ryan Tubridy
And we have an annual institution on the show called The Toy Show, and that can regularly pull in 70, 72% audience share, which is phenomenal. It's for us. What I hasten to add, I've inherited a lot of this good fortune in terms of the show and my job is to keep it relevant, to keep it healthy and, with the right people around me, were doing that.
Shaunagh Connaire
Great. So, Ryan, next question big question: Is there a moment in your career that you feel has had impact, something that you're quite proud of?
Ryan Tubridy
Yeah, obviously, one is loathed to take the trumpet out and start tooting, but I think that down through the years, for whatever reason, the area of domestic violence is something that I find really important to talk about. That and, funny enough, poverty in Ireland through what's called the Vincent de Paul charity and the domestic violence issue through Women's Aid and Safe Ireland. As I say, for whatever reason, they are two institutions, organizations, that I find, whenever we talk about around those stories, I find most moving and most... productive is a strange word... but most impactful. People listen to it and they stop. And they go, "Okay. We need to either shine a light on it or maybe listen to the muffled shouts of what's happening next door and actually make a phone call."
Ryan Tubridy
And then, with the Vincent de Paul business, that's simply poverty. This is a beautiful charity. They put a [inaudible 00:14:53] in your fireplace and they put a tin of biscuits in your press. I just find the simplicity of what they do is very powerful. And people listen to interviews with people who've been through that and they go, "Okay, I'm going to make a donation of whatever it might be," or "I'm going to actually ring them and say, 'I need you to help.'" And they get over a line in their lives. And then, when they're over that and they're over their troubles and they come back and they give back.
Ryan Tubridy
So, strangely, rather than say to you, "You know, it was that interview with Hillary Clinton or Christine Lagardeor Margaret Atwood, which are all things that I adore doing it... And I'm dropping the names. I'll pick them up on my way out the door. But I'm just saying to you, they're all big marquee interviews that are fascinating. But if you ask me what's, what's most important, it's probably real people telling stories that will get people who are in trouble out of a hole or a dark corner.
Shaunagh Connaire
Well, that kind of leads nicely on to you and your team having frontline workers on The Late Late Show months before COVID, COVID was even a thing. Why did you decide to do that, Ryan?
Ryan Tubridy
Well, that's a really good question on the basis that we sat down last July and said, myself and the two people that run the show, Jane and Catherine, and the three of us sat down and I said, "We all agree. Where are we going? What do we want? A mission statement." And the word that kept coming back was, strangely, Ireland. I'm a very, very proud Irish man. I love my country. I come from a very political family, steeped in tradition of politics and patriotism and pride in country. Not a dark history in my family, in that sense, but just one that is... This is another interview, by the way, but that's for my ancestors. But one that is based on a lot of country and compatriots and pride as well. To use, kind of borrow a phrase from the UK, it's not jingoistic. It's, simply saying, "I love the bones of the place." I love the stonewalls of Connemara. I love the Twelve Pins. I like the pier in Dún Laoghaire and Teddy's Ice Cream. Anyway, I've gone off on a tangent.
Ryan Tubridy
What I'm trying to say is you asked, "What did we do?" We sat down and we said, "Ireland, now why?" Well, we find that down through the years, what's the most... You talk about the audience numbers, that always the audience numbers for The Late Late Show that spike, that go biggest, is for Irish guests. Irish people love looking at Irish people, whether it's a politician, whether it's somebody with a life story to tell or a singer. They just love to see them. And we just thought, "Let's bring it all back home." And this is pre-COVID, just about pre-COVID.
Ryan Tubridy
So what we did was we said, "well, why don't we celebrate? We'll start the show, celebrating the best of Irish. Who are the best of Irish?" See the very simple question: Ireland. Best of Irish. Who are the best of Irish? And that was a simple answer. The men and women in uniform, who represented us in the defense forces, who represent us in, whether it's the prison system, whether there's the post office, frontline. And we brought representatives up, all of them, onto the show. And Outside the TV studios, we had a... It was kind of a big thank you. The theme music to The Late Late Show is quite [inaudible 00:18:24], so it has that sense of pomp and ceremony. And it was just magnificent.
Ryan Tubridy
And it went down a storm because people went, "Why did we not say thank you to these people before? Look at them." And nearly everyone in Ireland, population of nearly five million, is related to somebody or has had an encounter with someone in uniform for whatever reason. And I keep saying it, little did we know within... What are we? September, October, November. Within five or six months, these people would become the frontline in the war against COVID. And it's been remarkable.
Ryan Tubridy
Last week, I went on board, the L.É. Ciara ship, military vessel, and off the pier here in Dún Laoghaire in Dublin. Yesterday, I went to the National Ambulance Service to visit them at their HQ to see how they're getting on and what's going on. And they're remarkable people. So that's probably a long-winded answer.
Shaunagh Connaire
No, I think it's great. And I think it's kind of what we were chatting about before we pressed record. There is a sense that the pandemic, some positives can come from this. We will start appreciating the really important people in society and, perhaps, exactly what you've just said there, looking towards ordinary people and then for it to come as who are, in fact, extraordinary and really celebrating them as opposed to kind of celeb culture and what have you. No, I think it was a really, really important moment on The Late Late Show.
Ryan Tubridy
Yeah. You make a very valid point, because we were trying to figure out, "Who do you interview during a pandemic?" Because celebrity became very vacuous, more than it ever was before. And being in a movie well done, but you know what? There's somebody stacking a shelf over there who's kind of more important than you now. You know what I'm saying? And the nature of the guest list on the chat show became predicated on, "What is this person doing that is so impressive that people would respond to?"
Ryan Tubridy
And it was amazing. The great results we got were from the chief medical officer in Ireland, became a rockstar. I mean, Tony Holohan, so respected. And that's before we got to the frontlines. My God, at one stage, there was even respect for politicians, but that, unfortunately, has being eroded. You know, the wheels kind of came off the messaging a bit because, this is a global phenomenon, COVID fatigue, and people are fed up being told what to do and where to go.
Ryan Tubridy
And I was at the Ambulance Service yesterday and I said, "WHy the spike up in numbers?" Because our numbers are back up. And they told me, they said, "It's really simple. People aren't washing their hands and they're not social distancing and they're not sneezing into their sleeve or their elbow." And I said, "Is it that simple?" He said, "Yeah. He said, "We were doing everything right, and then, we just got lazy." So we just need to reboot and we'll be grand.
Shaunagh Connaire
And we will be grand. Well, I think, I just want to pick up in your points about your love for Irish. And you actually asked me this on your radio show, Ryan, as well. It's that sense of being Irish, as well, when you're abroad. And within the COVID kind of headline, when it all kind of broke out in March, my husband's cousin, a doctor in Manhattan, her name is Noel Breslin, she was desperately looking for face masks for her hospital. There was a huge shortage. Their ICU unit was jammers. And we all just did kind of a shout out on Facebook. And it was all the Irish construction workers who came back with a bunch of masks and hand delivered them up to her hospital in Manhattan. And it just... There's such a great... When the Irish come together, we can be so productive and it can be such a positive thing.
Ryan Tubridy
And I don't know if you've heard the Irish word [Gaelic 00:22:24], which loosely translates into the sense of community in the village. When the person up the road couldn't get water because they were lame or whatever, they all came together and they went to the well and they brought the water. I mean, it's, it's an international attitude. You could call it kindness. You could call it decency. And there was a lot of that on show, around the place, particularly, when the country was in lockdown. I think it was easier to lock down the country than it was to lock down three counties in the country, because there was a uniformity of desire to work together to defeat the monster. But when the monster suddenly is knocking only on certain doors in the neighborhood, it mixes things up a little bit. But when it was in full lockdown...
Ryan Tubridy
I got tested positive at one point. In the middle of it all, I had to stop doing the TV show for two weeks. And people were saying, "Is he okay?" I had a very small cough, like the persistent cough. I went back after two weeks. I was delighted because that delivered the message to people to say, "You could get it and you can go back to work." So it's not the end of the world for everyone. So it was kind of useful in a weird way.
Ryan Tubridy
But, yes, when I had it, I had people dropping things, cards into the door. Somebody left a bunch of... I remember the time of year... it was daffodils at the gate, like a neighbor.
Shaunagh Connaire
So nice.
Ryan Tubridy
I'll never forget it. It really brightened my day. I was here with my daughters and I had two weeks and three of us were here and it was strangely joyful. I think a lot of people had a good lockdown experience. I was fortunate. A lot of people have terrible ones. But I was fortunate because we were like these weird housemates just stuck in this COVIDien prison. But, thankfully, we all got on well. So I won't forget it for strangely good reasons.
Shaunagh Connaire
Good. Well, Ryan, next question. Now, I really want you to take a moment to think. Is there a kind of a crazy moment in your career that has never quite made it to air that you'd like to tell us about it?
Ryan Tubridy
Can I name drop?
Shaunagh Connaire
Absolutely.
Ryan Tubridy
Can I show off?
Shaunagh Connaire
You can show off. You can throw people over the bridge. Do what you feel like, honestly.
Ryan Tubridy
Okay. And under the bus.
Shaunagh Connaire
Under the bus.
Ryan Tubridy
Okay. I'm an American politics nut. I adore American politics. And I wrote a book about John F. Kennedy's trip to Ireland. I'm very fortunate that I've been invited to the White House a couple of times for the Patrick's Day ceremony, which [inaudible 00:24:47] prime minister Taoiseach gives some shamrocks to the American president. And I was there three times. Very, very fortunate. And it's like a fairy tale. It's a real buzz.
Ryan Tubridy
The first time I went, I got there and the Taoiseach in Ireland was Bertie Ahern. The president was George W. Bush. And they did the ceremony. And after the ceremony, I walked through a door and found myself in an atrium right behind the front door at the colonnaded White House. I shouldn't have been there. And this diplomatic man... I remember the diplomatic [inaudible 00:25:25] said to me quietly kind of, "Did you look at the front door?" And I said, "No, I must look out the front door." So I went down this massive front door. And, again, because I was dressed... I look probably looked like something like one of the contingent. I had chinos and a jacket and it was all very... I might stepped out of one of their cars myself, because I was dressed appropriately.
Ryan Tubridy
But, for some reason, I slipped through the net. So I went through the front door and in front of me was the presidential motorcade waiting for the Taoiseach and the president to go up to Capitol Hill for the big speakers lunch. And as I was looking, I was going, "Wow, that's quite the spectacle." One of them was a people carrier. The window came down and out of the window, Gerry Adams looks at me and says, "Top of the morning to you, Mr. Tubridy." And I said, "Mr. Adams, nice to meet you."
Ryan Tubridy
And then, another window opens, Martin McGuinness is looking, and he says, "How are you, Ryan?" And I don't know these guys well, but they knew from the TV or whatever.
Ryan Tubridy
And then behind Jerry Adams, the then American Ambassador to Ireland, Tom Foley, goes, "Ryan, nice to see you again. How are you?" And I said, "Tom, it's good. How are you doing?" [inaudible 00:26:33] lads, "That's quite a motley crew you have in that car."
Ryan Tubridy
And as we were making small talk, a big burly Secret Service guy came up. He said, "Sir, you cannot be here." And I said, "I know. Isn't it terrible. I shouldn't be." He said, "Sir, you either have to step in this car or go back into the building, but you cannot stay here." And I said to McGuinness, I said, "Look, I better go." He said, "Not at all." He said, "Hop in." and he opened the door and said, "Get in." Now the problem is when Martin McGuinness says you get in the car, you get in the car. But we're all friends, but it's all good.
Ryan Tubridy
So he slid the door open. I got in. So I'm squeezed into the car, my face against the window, with Martin McGuinness. In my head I think, "Sure, I might as well to be in an orange jumpsuit in shackles, because I'm going to get caught here." I've broken all the rules. Not only that, the car starts up. President Bush gets into the beast with the Taoiseach and the motorcade starts moving. And I'm terrified. This is a shambles. I need to be... How am I going to explain when I got out at Capitol Hill. He said, "Don't worry about it. You're fine with us."
Ryan Tubridy
So up we went to Capitol Hill. Got to the steps. It was a glorious March sunny day. And they say, "Come on up the steps.' So I'm walking up the steps with all these different people thinking, "How did this..." and "How am I going to get out of here?" Because it was a major seal off. Got into the Congress building. And we just got to the place where they were handing out the place names going, "Sir, what's your name?" "I'm McGuinness." "Yes, you're sitting in seat 4." "Adams, yes, you're in seat 5 beside the speaker." Whatever it might have been.
Ryan Tubridy
I was looking around and starting to really panic now going, "What the hell? How am I going to get out of here?" Eventually, I saw somebody from the Department of Foreign Affairs and said, "Look it." I said, "I'm not meant to be here." And she looked at me, she said, "I know." And I said, "How do I get out of here?" And she said... [inaudible 00:28:19], "See the steps over there?" I said, "Yeah." I said, "Say no more."
Ryan Tubridy
Went down steps. The president entered the building. So just as I was getting to the bottom of steps, the shutter came down, because it was to shut down. The president, obviously, sat down. I got into the building. I waited a few minutes. Shutters came up and I saw a door at the end, near the souvenirs, and it was an exit. And I walked out into a beautiful Washington, D.C., sunny day in March, to my freedom and not an orange jumpsuit in sight.
Shaunagh Connaire
Brilliant. I love it. I love it. That is a gas. And I feel like you're just the type of person that ends up in the situations.
Ryan Tubridy
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I call it Gumping after Forrest. I'm kind of Gumping through. I get it. I love it. I love the crazy. I love the privilege of it. I love the honor of it. I don't go, "Yeah. This stuff happens when you're in this job." It doesn't. It's crazy. It's so much fun. It's the dream.
Shaunagh Connaire
Brilliant. Well, that is a perfect place for us to end the interview, Ryan. Thank you so much for coming on and for being such a good sport. I really appreciate your time.
Ryan Tubridy
Thank you.
Shaunagh Connaire
If you liked what you heard on this episode of Media Tribe, tune in next week, as I'll be dropping new shows every week with all sorts of legendary folk from the industry. And if you could leave me a review and rating, that would be really appreciated. Also get in touch on social media @shaunagh on Twitter or @shaunaghconnaire on Instagram. And feel free to suggest new guests. Right. That's it. Until next week, see you then. This episode is edited by Ryan Ferguson.
